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		<title>By: theytookmymoney</title>
		<link>http://www.kickflop.net/blog/2006/08/16/chiropractic-god-and-riches/comment-page-1/#comment-133991</link>
		<dc:creator>theytookmymoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wen for a free consultation
end up paying over$200 for me  and my husband x rays and first ajustment.
when i call they said they take cigan liars!!! they dont and they tell u after u pay and they wont give u the money back
Me and my husband went his condition is better than my condition, but his plan was just the same as mine. 52 weeks plan for over $3000 
I can afford that, why they lie and said they take the insurance when they now for sure they dont,
Then they use the name of god to still your money.
be aware doctor lerner have a disciplinary action on filled chek it out on http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=5405&#38;ProfNBR=501
it says in 2000 he was fined and reprimand
They also take xrays like crazy and dont protect any body from radiation.
total scam ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wen for a free consultation<br />
end up paying over$200 for me  and my husband x rays and first ajustment.<br />
when i call they said they take cigan liars!!! they dont and they tell u after u pay and they wont give u the money back<br />
Me and my husband went his condition is better than my condition, but his plan was just the same as mine. 52 weeks plan for over $3000<br />
I can afford that, why they lie and said they take the insurance when they now for sure they dont,<br />
Then they use the name of god to still your money.<br />
be aware doctor lerner have a disciplinary action on filled chek it out on <a href="http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=5405&amp;ProfNBR=501" rel="nofollow">http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=5405&amp;ProfNBR=501</a><br />
it says in 2000 he was fined and reprimand<br />
They also take xrays like crazy and dont protect any body from radiation.<br />
total scam ,</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reference to the above poster, I too, sought care from Dr. David Erb for 1 year.  He claimed he could fix my scoliosis.  Didn't happen.  The pain did subside, but it also subsided when I went to a "regular" chiropractor.  I stopped seeing him when he refused to bill my insurance company for my 2nd year of treatment.  He said the insurance company doesn't cover "maintenance" care.  I called the insurance company and they said they do cover it, but the code in which he was billing indicated the 2nd year of treatment was "not medically necessary".  Dr. Erb wanted me to pay for all 52 of my visits out of pocket - at $65 per visit.

Oh, he also preaches to get off your anti-depressants because "no one needs them".  I got off of mine for 3 months.  But got back on them when I became suicidal.  I've been on them since then and feel fine.  His office prints hand-outs that reference how anti-depressants are a poison to your body, and I'm 100% sure that the "friend" mentioned in the blog was also taking anti-depressants.

I am all for chiropractic treatment, but these people are money-hungry.  They do not FIX scoliosis and they do not take away your depression.  God doesn't "guide their hands".  It's a bunch of crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to the above poster, I too, sought care from Dr. David Erb for 1 year.  He claimed he could fix my scoliosis.  Didn&#8217;t happen.  The pain did subside, but it also subsided when I went to a &#8220;regular&#8221; chiropractor.  I stopped seeing him when he refused to bill my insurance company for my 2nd year of treatment.  He said the insurance company doesn&#8217;t cover &#8220;maintenance&#8221; care.  I called the insurance company and they said they do cover it, but the code in which he was billing indicated the 2nd year of treatment was &#8220;not medically necessary&#8221;.  Dr. Erb wanted me to pay for all 52 of my visits out of pocket - at $65 per visit.</p>
<p>Oh, he also preaches to get off your anti-depressants because &#8220;no one needs them&#8221;.  I got off of mine for 3 months.  But got back on them when I became suicidal.  I&#8217;ve been on them since then and feel fine.  His office prints hand-outs that reference how anti-depressants are a poison to your body, and I&#8217;m 100% sure that the &#8220;friend&#8221; mentioned in the blog was also taking anti-depressants.</p>
<p>I am all for chiropractic treatment, but these people are money-hungry.  They do not FIX scoliosis and they do not take away your depression.  God doesn&#8217;t &#8220;guide their hands&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a bunch of crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trash them?  I recounted real-world experience and also my take on the situation.  Your reaction (that I am "trashing them") is based on your emotional attachment to them.  Emotion has no part in objectively evaluating something.

You're a very comically simple and naive person, Alan, if you believe that fame and success is always the result of honesty and good will toward others.  There are hundreds of amazingly successful men and women who are complete scumbags at heart.  Many of them, if society is lucky, end up in prison.

Dick Cheney is the Vice President of the United States!  You go right ahead and trust him based on his success and status.  Good luck with that.

I'm not going to sit here and bicker back and forth with you.  You have offered nothing new in this latest comment of yours.  You simply don't like what you read and have said so many times now.  We get it.  You're allowed.  And I continue to approve your comments for posting here, but you're a broken record now, and it's old, so comment all you want but I'll not reply further.  Everything I have to say has already been said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trash them?  I recounted real-world experience and also my take on the situation.  Your reaction (that I am &#8220;trashing them&#8221;) is based on your emotional attachment to them.  Emotion has no part in objectively evaluating something.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a very comically simple and naive person, Alan, if you believe that fame and success is always the result of honesty and good will toward others.  There are hundreds of amazingly successful men and women who are complete scumbags at heart.  Many of them, if society is lucky, end up in prison.</p>
<p>Dick Cheney is the Vice President of the United States!  You go right ahead and trust him based on his success and status.  Good luck with that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to sit here and bicker back and forth with you.  You have offered nothing new in this latest comment of yours.  You simply don&#8217;t like what you read and have said so many times now.  We get it.  You&#8217;re allowed.  And I continue to approve your comments for posting here, but you&#8217;re a broken record now, and it&#8217;s old, so comment all you want but I&#8217;ll not reply further.  Everything I have to say has already been said.</p>
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		<title>By: perplexed</title>
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		<dc:creator>perplexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you trust them. I trust plenty of people in my life but I will not go on a public forum and trash a group of people that weren't even connected to my friends employment. That's just rediculous. 
How is it that some guy gets to be the Olympic Teams Chiropractor? Or write New York times best selling novels? Or get written up in national magazines or on national news. Did you even look these guys up before you trashed them? That took me all of 1 google to find that info and from what I can see they look pretty impressive. You don't rise to that level by stealing, lying and cheating. 
And you never let us know. Was it the Nobel Prize or the cure for Cancer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you trust them. I trust plenty of people in my life but I will not go on a public forum and trash a group of people that weren&#8217;t even connected to my friends employment. That&#8217;s just rediculous.<br />
How is it that some guy gets to be the Olympic Teams Chiropractor? Or write New York times best selling novels? Or get written up in national magazines or on national news. Did you even look these guys up before you trashed them? That took me all of 1 google to find that info and from what I can see they look pretty impressive. You don&#8217;t rise to that level by stealing, lying and cheating.<br />
And you never let us know. Was it the Nobel Prize or the cure for Cancer?</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't know who the "friend" was, for one.  It was not a casual acquaintance of mine who called me one day and griped.  It's someone I know front and back, inside and out.  It's someone I trust completely who has been nothing but 100% honest and open with me about everything in his/her life including several unflattering items he/she is not proud of from past years.

I heard every detail of this "friend"'s employment from day 1 to day Final.  Every day.  I heard every detail, also, of the situation in Orlando at the conference.  I asked questions.  I asked for clarification on everything.

I have no PERSONAL axe to grind.

I have a soapbox and this is America.  I spoke out about something that sat very poorly with me.

""anyone who rises to the top of a profession and is as in demand by patients as they obviously are must be doing something right""

That's weak logic at best.

Being good to each other involves, at its CORE, sharing information like this with others so they can determine what they wish from it.

Reality and fact are not slander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t know who the &#8220;friend&#8221; was, for one.  It was not a casual acquaintance of mine who called me one day and griped.  It&#8217;s someone I know front and back, inside and out.  It&#8217;s someone I trust completely who has been nothing but 100% honest and open with me about everything in his/her life including several unflattering items he/she is not proud of from past years.</p>
<p>I heard every detail of this &#8220;friend&#8221;&#8217;s employment from day 1 to day Final.  Every day.  I heard every detail, also, of the situation in Orlando at the conference.  I asked questions.  I asked for clarification on everything.</p>
<p>I have no PERSONAL axe to grind.</p>
<p>I have a soapbox and this is America.  I spoke out about something that sat very poorly with me.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;anyone who rises to the top of a profession and is as in demand by patients as they obviously are must be doing something right&#8221;"</p>
<p>That&#8217;s weak logic at best.</p>
<p>Being good to each other involves, at its CORE, sharing information like this with others so they can determine what they wish from it.</p>
<p>Reality and fact are not slander.</p>
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		<title>By: perplexed</title>
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		<dc:creator>perplexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old friend of a friend story. I was reading this and thinking to myself why anyone would put out the effort and research you obviously have into writing this when it was a friend who had a bad experience with an employer. And then to connect that bad experience to a group of other Chiropractors just doesn't ring true. It sure sounds more like you have a personal axe to grind. If what you are even telling us is the truth about what a FRIEND said, to then to slander that office and the group TTWAC based on her version is pretty shady. You weren't there. How could you know what went on? Maybe they were just a bad employee that got mad after being terminated. 
I don't know Ben Lerner or Greg Loman but I did look them up. I would have to say that anyone who rises to the top of a profession and is as in demand by patients as they obviously are must be doing something right. Ben has several books including a New York Times bestseller. He was an all American wrestler and he's the Olympic Wrestling teams Dr through at least a two Olympics and six world championships from what i can see. He's some kind of Pastor at his church and he runs triathalons. He's been written up in national magazines and been on TV quite a few times. What is it that you do that is obviously so great that you can criticize a guy like this?  You must have won a Nobel Prize or have the cure for cancer of something. You should take your own advice. "Be good to each other, think for yourselves".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old friend of a friend story. I was reading this and thinking to myself why anyone would put out the effort and research you obviously have into writing this when it was a friend who had a bad experience with an employer. And then to connect that bad experience to a group of other Chiropractors just doesn&#8217;t ring true. It sure sounds more like you have a personal axe to grind. If what you are even telling us is the truth about what a FRIEND said, to then to slander that office and the group TTWAC based on her version is pretty shady. You weren&#8217;t there. How could you know what went on? Maybe they were just a bad employee that got mad after being terminated.<br />
I don&#8217;t know Ben Lerner or Greg Loman but I did look them up. I would have to say that anyone who rises to the top of a profession and is as in demand by patients as they obviously are must be doing something right. Ben has several books including a New York Times bestseller. He was an all American wrestler and he&#8217;s the Olympic Wrestling teams Dr through at least a two Olympics and six world championships from what i can see. He&#8217;s some kind of Pastor at his church and he runs triathalons. He&#8217;s been written up in national magazines and been on TV quite a few times. What is it that you do that is obviously so great that you can criticize a guy like this?  You must have won a Nobel Prize or have the cure for cancer of something. You should take your own advice. &#8220;Be good to each other, think for yourselves&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: In agreement!</title>
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		<dc:creator>In agreement!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

I am extremely impressed by your very  blog entry. I thought it was very professional and truthful.
To make a long story short, I go to Life University in Marietta, GA (NOT TO BE A CHIRO but in The sports health science Graduate department: Yes, they have OTHER STUFF!! :D)
and I have worked as a chiropractic assistant. 
I was also "informed" of this mandatory   conference in orlando you were speaking of upon the first few weeks of being hired as a C.A.. 
While in attendance, I was very grateful for an all-expense paid trip (including airfare), but little did I know what was really in store. 
From the moment the seminars (that lasted up to 14hrs/day) started I was tracked down even to simply go to the restroom by my boss/office manager. 
I was coerced into going to lunch /dinner and spend every waking minute with my office co-workers while in attendance. This included all "lunches", "breaks", and "meetings" that the doctor of the office went to. We basically just followed him around like personal shadows.
 I supposed because I was "being paid for" that it meant I would obligated to partake in cult-like activities.
Although, the very first day (right after checking in to the hotel) my other office "colleagues" ...meaning the rest of the front desk staff  was given the opportunity to partake in "seaworld", with again all expense paid admission courtesy of the doctor (hmmmm...write off in business expenses??) and have a relaxing-filled day before the slavery began. 
While my co-workers were out getting sprayed by Shamu, I was entitled to enjoying a wonderful  nutritional seminar on neuro-toxicity and other useful topics. 
Now, don't get me wrong..I absolutely adore this topic because my Undergraduate degree is in Dietetics, but to sit through even MORE seminars while every one else is having fun in Florida? Something just wasn't adding up: even at this point.
I personally met Dr. Ben and Dr. Loman and it was nothing against them individually, I just don't agree with their style of going about pushing the religion card in addition to their practices. 
I grew up 100% catholic and I'm used to people whipping out their reasonings for things ."God this, God that.."..but I agree with you completely and I understand EXACTLY why noone can give your friend an answer about why she was "let go". 
I saw a lot of shady stuff go on behind the scenes, with some always relating back to "God" and it really frustrated me because I am very pro-chiropractic, pro-active preventative healthcare, and pro-wellness. 
I am glad that I was able to experience such monstrosity because it opened my mind up even more so than it is. 
Ultimately, I did not feel right doing what I did with a group of people preaching what they were preaching.
 So, I chose to leave shortly thereafter the seminar in Orlando. I guess my "innate" intuition made my ultimate decision that some people aren't always in certain practices of life for the proper reasons. 
Thanks for writing, I'm excited there are others that share my mentality!
Best Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>I am extremely impressed by your very  blog entry. I thought it was very professional and truthful.<br />
To make a long story short, I go to Life University in Marietta, GA (NOT TO BE A CHIRO but in The sports health science Graduate department: Yes, they have OTHER STUFF!! :D)<br />
and I have worked as a chiropractic assistant.<br />
I was also &#8220;informed&#8221; of this mandatory   conference in orlando you were speaking of upon the first few weeks of being hired as a C.A..<br />
While in attendance, I was very grateful for an all-expense paid trip (including airfare), but little did I know what was really in store.<br />
From the moment the seminars (that lasted up to 14hrs/day) started I was tracked down even to simply go to the restroom by my boss/office manager.<br />
I was coerced into going to lunch /dinner and spend every waking minute with my office co-workers while in attendance. This included all &#8220;lunches&#8221;, &#8220;breaks&#8221;, and &#8220;meetings&#8221; that the doctor of the office went to. We basically just followed him around like personal shadows.<br />
 I supposed because I was &#8220;being paid for&#8221; that it meant I would obligated to partake in cult-like activities.<br />
Although, the very first day (right after checking in to the hotel) my other office &#8220;colleagues&#8221; &#8230;meaning the rest of the front desk staff  was given the opportunity to partake in &#8220;seaworld&#8221;, with again all expense paid admission courtesy of the doctor (hmmmm&#8230;write off in business expenses??) and have a relaxing-filled day before the slavery began.<br />
While my co-workers were out getting sprayed by Shamu, I was entitled to enjoying a wonderful  nutritional seminar on neuro-toxicity and other useful topics.<br />
Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong..I absolutely adore this topic because my Undergraduate degree is in Dietetics, but to sit through even MORE seminars while every one else is having fun in Florida? Something just wasn&#8217;t adding up: even at this point.<br />
I personally met Dr. Ben and Dr. Loman and it was nothing against them individually, I just don&#8217;t agree with their style of going about pushing the religion card in addition to their practices.<br />
I grew up 100% catholic and I&#8217;m used to people whipping out their reasonings for things .&#8221;God this, God that..&#8221;..but I agree with you completely and I understand EXACTLY why noone can give your friend an answer about why she was &#8220;let go&#8221;.<br />
I saw a lot of shady stuff go on behind the scenes, with some always relating back to &#8220;God&#8221; and it really frustrated me because I am very pro-chiropractic, pro-active preventative healthcare, and pro-wellness.<br />
I am glad that I was able to experience such monstrosity because it opened my mind up even more so than it is.<br />
Ultimately, I did not feel right doing what I did with a group of people preaching what they were preaching.<br />
 So, I chose to leave shortly thereafter the seminar in Orlando. I guess my &#8220;innate&#8221; intuition made my ultimate decision that some people aren&#8217;t always in certain practices of life for the proper reasons.<br />
Thanks for writing, I&#8217;m excited there are others that share my mentality!<br />
Best Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what exactly is the difference b/t TTWAC and lets say, any regular "straight" chiropractor?  Are they doing something magical or do they just have a better way of explaining the same thing chiropractors have been explaining for a hundred years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what exactly is the difference b/t TTWAC and lets say, any regular &#8220;straight&#8221; chiropractor?  Are they doing something magical or do they just have a better way of explaining the same thing chiropractors have been explaining for a hundred years.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hallett, DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Hallett, DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading all of the comments.  As a practicing chiropractor for 13 years, it is refreshing to see actual patients weighing in and going to bat for our freedom to choose the health care modality of our choice (although those freedoms are being infringed upon more and more).  I have never met Dr. Loman personally, but I have listened to many of his recorded talks at the TTWAC conferences.  He has been a big inspiration to me.  His greatest weakness is probably that his passion may have gotten a little out of balance.  But, please forgive this human being as we all get out of balance in certain areas of our lives.  We principled chiropractors just see the evil that exists in organized medicine.  We often get the patients AFTER they've suffered for years with no help from drugs/surgery and spent thousands of dollars in the process.  Then we hear the comments that have been made to those trusting patients by their physicians.  Comments like:  "It's in your head", "there's nothing wrong with you", etc, etc.  There are definitely 2 sides to every story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading all of the comments.  As a practicing chiropractor for 13 years, it is refreshing to see actual patients weighing in and going to bat for our freedom to choose the health care modality of our choice (although those freedoms are being infringed upon more and more).  I have never met Dr. Loman personally, but I have listened to many of his recorded talks at the TTWAC conferences.  He has been a big inspiration to me.  His greatest weakness is probably that his passion may have gotten a little out of balance.  But, please forgive this human being as we all get out of balance in certain areas of our lives.  We principled chiropractors just see the evil that exists in organized medicine.  We often get the patients AFTER they&#8217;ve suffered for years with no help from drugs/surgery and spent thousands of dollars in the process.  Then we hear the comments that have been made to those trusting patients by their physicians.  Comments like:  &#8220;It&#8217;s in your head&#8221;, &#8220;there&#8217;s nothing wrong with you&#8221;, etc, etc.  There are definitely 2 sides to every story.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my search for a chiropractor, i came across this forum.  At first, JB, your input caused me some concern for TTWAC.  However, i have since done my "own" research and not based it on second hand information from you or your friend.  

Is it possible that she was in a bad dr's office?Certainly.  Should she or you blanket a group because of her account of a story?  If you are as intelligent as you think you are...

I had a chest pain that kept getting worse through 2005.  I went to a cardiologist may 2006 for an exam.  Within days, i had spent in excess of $2500 dollars on top of what my insurance paid, in his office on different tests.  I never saw him once.  I spoke to him for a couple of minutes on the phone.  The next battery of tests and treatment was going to cost me ~$8000.00.

Did i care what religion he was or what type of car he drove?  No.  His family has kids my age.  They all drove porsches, mercedes and the like to our high school.  They live in the wealthiest part of Dallas.  They are Christians but you would never know it.  

Before i went on with any further M.D. test, i found Dr. Josh Ferrell at the Wellness Institute in Frisco.  My spine was in the wrong shape and he personally explained the entire thing in what he calls the Dr's report.  There were 8 other patients with us and we all understood what exactly he would be doing before we agreed to his care.  It was not pushy, strange or anything except full of information that i was so happy to hear.  

I chose to pay him in monthly installments as opposed to one payment up front.  

My chest pain is gone.  My asthma of 36 years is gone.  My medicine cabinet no longer has 20 bottles or boxes in it.  I don't even keep advil or alka seltzer any more.

Does it matter that Dr. Josh is a Christian or that he attends the TTWAC seminars.  No.  

Trust in the power of your body.  Respect it.  Don't make the same mistakes that so many people make, ie. listening to the media, reaching for a pill for any little symptoms, listening to second hand info from someone you don't know or trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my search for a chiropractor, i came across this forum.  At first, JB, your input caused me some concern for TTWAC.  However, i have since done my &#8220;own&#8221; research and not based it on second hand information from you or your friend.  </p>
<p>Is it possible that she was in a bad dr&#8217;s office?Certainly.  Should she or you blanket a group because of her account of a story?  If you are as intelligent as you think you are&#8230;</p>
<p>I had a chest pain that kept getting worse through 2005.  I went to a cardiologist may 2006 for an exam.  Within days, i had spent in excess of $2500 dollars on top of what my insurance paid, in his office on different tests.  I never saw him once.  I spoke to him for a couple of minutes on the phone.  The next battery of tests and treatment was going to cost me ~$8000.00.</p>
<p>Did i care what religion he was or what type of car he drove?  No.  His family has kids my age.  They all drove porsches, mercedes and the like to our high school.  They live in the wealthiest part of Dallas.  They are Christians but you would never know it.  </p>
<p>Before i went on with any further M.D. test, i found Dr. Josh Ferrell at the Wellness Institute in Frisco.  My spine was in the wrong shape and he personally explained the entire thing in what he calls the Dr&#8217;s report.  There were 8 other patients with us and we all understood what exactly he would be doing before we agreed to his care.  It was not pushy, strange or anything except full of information that i was so happy to hear.  </p>
<p>I chose to pay him in monthly installments as opposed to one payment up front.  </p>
<p>My chest pain is gone.  My asthma of 36 years is gone.  My medicine cabinet no longer has 20 bottles or boxes in it.  I don&#8217;t even keep advil or alka seltzer any more.</p>
<p>Does it matter that Dr. Josh is a Christian or that he attends the TTWAC seminars.  No.  </p>
<p>Trust in the power of your body.  Respect it.  Don&#8217;t make the same mistakes that so many people make, ie. listening to the media, reaching for a pill for any little symptoms, listening to second hand info from someone you don&#8217;t know or trust.</p>
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